Posts by Introvert 2

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My Bethwl Experience Part 11

by new boy in

more about cars and n.y.c.. .

back then hundreds of cars were stolen, in the city every day!

the new york post said "the average life span of a corvette (sports car) parked on the street was 24 hours!

Introvert 2

You bet I vote for a book from New Boy !

Joe Anderson as in Barbara's husband ? That would be GREAT ! Would love to hear about all the pluming and trades stories that went on there, screwed up jobs by incompetents and costly reworks. God's house my rear end.

Barbara is a top researcher, I'm sure she could help Joe getting some of his stories into print. I think it's awesome that they post and contribute here, thank you Joe and Barbara !

I also check in all the time on Nestor Kuilan's blog but he's not updating it regularly. That was the golden era of the WT, ah the great upheaval of '80 HISTORIC !

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My Bethwl Experience Part 11

by new boy in

more about cars and n.y.c.. .

back then hundreds of cars were stolen, in the city every day!

the new york post said "the average life span of a corvette (sports car) parked on the street was 24 hours!

Introvert 2

Love you Keith, thanks for posting up this stuff. As I said before being a machinist and practically living in my shop I can relate to your industrial experience of 'serving' at Bethel !

For you brother :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GAKOLOnfV4

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General health after learning TTATT

by Darkknight757 in

4 months ago i was conducting the watchtower study along with a long list of responsibilities that come with being an elder in a very goofy congregation.

during this time my health was going down hill.

i've always had a low blood pressure,(102/65 or abouts) but for the past year it had creeped up to 135/90 range.. so 2 months ago after learning ttatt, i'm still considered an elder because the brothers won't let me step down, but i haven't done anything in that time except comment once at a meeting a few weeks ago.

Introvert 2

Prior to my baptism in '02 I was a high level weekend warrior athlete. By the time '08 came around was an out of shape nervous wreck that had given up on life and had lost 20 lbs. My BP was sky high and my face and thighs were often flushed red. Wake up call was a little overnight trip to the hospital on suicide watch and from that point on decided to take back control of my life and not let others do it for me.

The next couple years were hard getting my business functioning well again but made it through, gained a bit too much weight in the process but am now running and training, take a BP as well as anti anxiety med and do ok when I get regular sleep. The anxiety simply is genetic as I was a hyperactive kid. I just need to keep moving and all is good. The act of trying to be a good little JW people pleaser took it's toll on me but my aim is to bounce back stronger than ever. I started my fade in the spring of 2010 but stayed in mentally thanks to obsessive guilt till last year. This summer was my true turning point with the ARC and spent more time researching TTATT then I have ever done.

Professional counseling was what I needed back in 2000 and not the self serving solution touted by the WTBTS

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My Bethel Experience Part 8

by new boy in

well it is 4:00 a.m. in the morning and i can't sleep, so might has well write..

everything at bethel is seniority........"how long have you been here?

you really wanted to be the man with no name a.k.a.thx-1138.

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Lost and adrift 22 minutes ago

Class u should write a book lol....and I grew up thinking bethel was as holy and pure as driven snow LOL so did I , was a complete shock to me first I read Keith's stuff last summer. We used to have a JW work here and he went there a few times on a bus tour, his view of the place was like it was paradise on earth. Was kind of where I got into the desire to run a really clean machine shop to this day. That guy was high maintenance as are many JW employees. I can't thank you enough Keith, as a lifelong shop rat I relate to al your experiences, really opened my eyes to TTATT

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JT & Lady Cee Why we left the Jehovah's Witnesses - Part 2

by JT-LadyC in

jt further expounds on why we left the watchtower.

why we left the jehovah's witnesses part 2.

Introvert 2

Thank-you JC Amazing !

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Teenager Breaks free from JW cult . Canadians are leaving in droves.

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpqctuhmv08.

Introvert 2

Well said Wannexit, I've noticed that too. There is the young ' in ' crowd still living at home with disposable income for nice cars and a full wardrobe of new clothes, most have great teeth ( thanks to braces from parents ) and have trades or good jobs. The party will be over once they move out and get married. Then you have the their parents in the 50 + age group. Hardly anyone left in the 30-50 group but born ins that stuck it out for family and friends.

Anyhow good for her to be awake and see it for what it is !

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"How Awful This Place Can Be!" Life at Bethel by Keith Casarona

by Dogpatch in

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remember the video of all the nice dudes who were on the governing body in the 70s?

(here's a refresher).. well this is what their lives were really like - the same as when i was there.

by the time it got to the end, all was left was chicken backs.

Introvert 2

Keith would be great for you to get together with Brock Talon, he put a book out on his Bethel stay of the early eighties a year or two ago. I'm sure he could give you some tips on how to put one together. He's on the forum here uses same name. Anyhow thanks again as I sais earlier your stories open the door for me to walk away from this sad cult.

On edit : Sorry Keith I shouldn't of bumped this thread. Hopefully it will just stay down I've been enjoying your recent refresher on your other post and hope others get to read it there for the first time. Sorry about that everyone.

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My Bethel Experience Part 3

by new boy in

don't get me wrong...........there was no one more self righteous, than me at 19. i moved to kansas at 18 to pioneer and even printed up cards that said............ .

"have sword, will travel"---------contact casarona salina kansas------ aaa which of course meant available after armageddon..

oh, i was full of myself!

Introvert 2

Hey man you're still around, your stories are the greatest ! Rest assured they had a major parts in my awakening ! It's Keith right ? Please tell us more !!

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The mistranslation of John 8.58

by Wonderment in

john 8.58 is one of those scriptures which translators often mis-translate.. i am aware this text is defended with passion either way by its advocates.

many insist the "i am" rendering found in many versions is correct.

others defend the "i have been" or "i was" readings of other versions.

Introvert 2

Have not read the complete post yet as I'm on the way out and away from internet tomorrow but look up Wrongly Translated Verses by Arne Jordly on Jordly.com He usually has a good handle on things. I don't know how he did it but the guys been at it for over 25 years a real machine ! I'll look into John 8:58 when I get home I have his complete up to date works.

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The really cool feeling of community within JWs

by Phaedra in

i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..

Introvert 2

I think that the feeling of solidarity has to do with elitism, such as we have felt when we were younger and training at high levels in the many sports we participated in : bodybuilding, XC skiing, cycling, etc. The same applies to all high level sports, we get to the point of having maybe a higher opinion of ourselves coupled with some narcissistic traits. Walking around as if we owned the place and were due respect by all, plain entitled. Thus we stuck together and fed off each others ideals of grandeur. I now look back on this with slight embarrassment. I sure made an ass of myself !